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January 10, 2008

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Donagh

As this is the interweb 2.0 and all that, I've posted a reply.
http://dublinopinion.com/2008/01/16/in-defence-of-consumerism-the-dubliners-opinion/
Thanks.
Donagh

Michael

This is a difficult issue, complicated as it is by varying definitions of class and the relationship of class with income, wealth and status. The EU Income and Living Conditions Survey can begin to shine a little bit of light - which I have discussed at - http://notesonthefront.typepad.com/politicaleconomy/2008/01/post.html#more

Whatever our take on it is, we should keep this issue to the fore as it is a major, if not always well-discussed, issue in politics today.

Unclesam

The first paragraph irritated me too much to continue reading.
I assume, Robert, you are a grown man, and therefore your 'middle-class' status has more to do with your occupation than what you were born into. You're not middle class till the day you die just cos your parents were.
It's what we call social mobility.
But why would a snooty southside rag like The Dubliner be concerned with such a notion.

Unclesam

"Today, class is determined not by the work you do but by precisely the kind of characteristics already mentioned: property and car ownership; third-level educational qualifications; plus an essentially conservative political and social outlook."

So someone with conservative views is middle class and someone with liberal views is not??!!


Even if I'm wrong about occupation being a measure of social class your opening paragraph is still contradictory. You said you are middle class because you were born into it and then went on to say someone who owns a car and has conservative views is middle class.

Do you have a degree?? How does it feel to have a cocky student try to undermine you?

Unclesam

"How splendid if Mr Ahern accepted that his upbringing, though all very well in its way, had left him deficient in some respects and he now planned to rectify this situation"


Snob

Everybody together

Waters is a plank, he should stick to composing crap Eurovision blarney.

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